The lies roll off the man's lips like music off Yo-Yo Ma's cello. Both are virtuosos - one a cellist, the other a liar.
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(This comment was original written for the posting “Politicians Bicker; People Die”, but it fits here as well)
Free will is the foundation of our rights as proclaimed by the Founders when they mentioned life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is the common attribute, assigned by God, to each one of us.
The Bill of Rights is written to define what government is NOT allowed to do with regard to our rights, i.e. free will. It assumes that US citizens have free will, and it acknowledges that governments, by their very nature, will attempt to restrict that free will.
Government’s role is to protect its citizens from fraud, theft and outside attacks. As citizens with free will, we are allowed to enter into contracts with whomever we like, and it’s the government’s job to enforce that contract if one of the parties doesn’t fulfill their end of it. If an insurance company doesn’t fulfill the terms of its contract with its customers, the government can be called in to help enforce the contract’s terms. If CIGNA violated the terms of its contract with its customer, it should be called to the table. Ultimately however, it’s the customer’s job to enter into a contract that will guarantee the terms of care that they desire.
The system of health care in this nation does need to be changed, but not at the expense of giving up more of our free will. Much of the problems with health insurance can be traced to government mandates at state levels. By lifting the mandates and allowing people to enter into the contracts that they choose, across state lines, competition will be encouraged, solving many of the issues of high costs.
We do not have a “right” to health care, but living the lifestyle of your choice is a right. We also have a right to enter into a contract with whomever we choose, or not choose. As we mandate that you have a health care contract (removing your right to choose not to), should we also remove your right to choose a lifestyle that increases your need for health care?
We need to start taking back our freedoms, not giving away more of them. As you give more and more of the responsibility for individual decision making to the government, you give up a little more free will. You may be ok with being told what to do because it’s easy for you. Imagine a carefree child living with a parent who makes all their decisions for them. They’re told to eat their vegetables and when to go to bed, but it’s a small sacrifice for having no responsibility, right?
B. You have not made a case showing where your freedoms are being restricted under the proposed health care plans. If you are happy with your health care provider, then keep it. Keep your insurance, your doctor, your everything.
Handling every situation facing society using an identical set of arguments (free will, smaller government, etc.) might look pretty on paper but in the real world it is quite worthless. Those are real people out there dying every single day because of a health care system which is flawed. Go preach libertarian principles to the guy in the video and let me know what he tells you.
B. Many millions of people don’t want to pay for health insurance. I didn’t until I was in my mid 30′s. Forcing everyone to join a plan robs them of that choice, thus restricting their freedom to spend that money on something else.
Smaller government is one answer to many of our country’s problems. It’s not the only solution, but it’s a great place to start.
A. We fundamentally disagree so anything else we say on the subject of health care is moot.
B. And many millions do not want to wear seat belts in their cars nor do many millions wish to obey speed limits. Many millions believe they can drive with a blood-alcohol levels way over the limit set by DUI laws. I can go on here but my point is clear.
And just for the heck of it, I’ll take your argument for one more spin. If you got into a serious accident at the age of 29, who would pay for the care you’d receive because you made the decision to not carry health insurance? Answer: everyone out there who did have insurance would pay for your care through increased premiums on their health insurance and/or through the taxes they paid to government. So your recklessness in not carrying health insurance affected people who were a little bit smarter than you who did carry insrance.
You infringed on their rights “thus restricting their freedom to spend that money on something else.”
In a free society, personal consequences are a result of personal decisions. Taking away personal decisions to avoid personal consequences removes freedom from society.
You’re avoiding the contradiction in your argument which I pointed out. Let me restate it again in case you missed it.
Your “personal decision” to not carry health insurance had the possible “consequence” of costing every other taxpayer money in the event of an accident or health issue you were not aware of.
By your own definition, you infringed on the rights of those people by “restricting their freedom to spend that money on something else.”
In summary, your “personal decision” had consequences which were a lot more than “personal”. Deal with that point clearly Tommy with out playing a game of semantics.
The man in the video deserves to have Health Care and not sell everything he owns to get it. That should be his right. When someone like this is brought up in a debate, the subject is changed quickly to our “rights”. Then it gets selfish. They don’t want to pay for anyone else’s health care. We do already as Mario pointed out. Why is this a political issue instead of a human one? It has to do with all the money politicians are making from the Insurance companies, IMO.
Mario – Do you have any statistics about how much it costs us to cover uninsured people (not illegal aliens)? My guess is that it’s a small price relative to the total amount of health care expenses. A doctor friend of mine said 2% of hospital bills go uncollected. Here’s a link to a report from 2004 that puts the number at 2.7%. http://bit.ly/4xkPS
Now, how about you addressing your willingness to throw my freedoms under the bus just because you feel a need to help a stranger.
@Tommy; if you are not including illegal aliens then your argument is specious, and there is no point to it. However illegal aliens make up just a tiny component of those that you have to shell out for:
Gang members (drive around L.A. you see whole bunches of gang members in wheel chairs YOU will be taking care of the rest of their lives) Prisoners (they have more rights than YOU in this case), homeless citizens, low income and children of low income, deadbeats AND the majority of people age 18 to 30, because they are invincible and think Health Insurance is only for health and have not read the Auto Insurance Co stats on what age group is likely to have the highest percent of accidents?
How sad that you can compare your imaginary loss of freedoms in regards to health care reform, to “helping a stranger”. That helping a stranger, Tommy, is about saving their LIFE.
If Obama was not making a concerted effort to reform health care, I have no doubt that you would have been quite content in leaving the system as is. You once mentioned in passing how the system worked for you anyway. You were happy. I doubt that you and your buddies were out there over the last 8 years sipping wine and discussing the deplorable state of health care.
You can bury your head in the sand all you want…or maybe you honestly don’t give a damn about the suffering out there but, whatever position you’re in, people are dying because of the current system.
Finally, I’ll say this. Your dream of a less intrusive government might be a worthy goal in many instances – you could start with them getting out of the bedrooms of the nation and the bodies of women. But choosing health care as a means to express your libertarian ideals is just so wrong.
I don’t expect you to ever understand but for anyone to ever have to die because of inadequate health insurance or for anyone to ever have to give up their life’s savings because of an illness, in a country as rich as the United States is a crying, disgraceful shame.
I think everyone should be required to have health insurance.when a teen drops off their parents policy,they should have ins.even if the parents have to help pay until they get a job,I know I did help mine (never got paid back)but the point is I felt it my responsiable to make sure ,if something happen they would be taken care of and not be a liability to some one else.I think it was the best thing when it became law that you had to have at least liability auto ins.thought the price would come down,but here came the lawyers,an for every scratch a law suit.It will happen the same way with health care,the shisters will mess it up to.
Also insurance is like a woman,can’t live with them ,can’t live without them. Ha,Ha. It is also like gambling,but do you want to take a chance? It is better to have it an not need it than to need it an not have it.
@Walter- in a perfect world that would be ideal. Unfortunately, many people die from not having insurance, or having it, yet the insurance company won’t cover them. When I was growing up, my mother would never have been able to pay that kind of money. Remember when a divorced woman could harldy rent an apartment? That was my Mom. It’s nice you did the right thing with your kid, but a lot of folks financially can’t.
So I’m right, Mario, you’re willing to throw my right to choose under the bus. Even though the main problem is cost, which could be addressed without getting the government involved, you don’t want to hear it. You’re just jealous of my economic means and want it balanced out.
And by the way, I agree that the government should be out of the bedroom.
I couldn,t afford it ,had to do with out alot but I didn’t want to take the chance.Thank God I never had to use it but once (on my son)but it was there.I had to watch my mother die with cancer,didn’t have no kind of ins.I know it was hard on your MOM she probably more than she could give you.But the point is some people can afford it but put their wants before their needs.
@Walter- You are a good Dad, no doubt about it. My Mother already stretched her dollars as far as they could be stretched..& then some. We had no money. Anything I did in life was from the bottom up. Others are in the position I was in & I don’t mind lending a hand. I don’t truly think you’d deny anyone. This is a human issue & we’re all human (even you Republicans..sorry, a little joke). You pay for other people’s health care anyway. Your premiums & Medicaid is a costly pair! Surely, you can put politics aside & think of the issue as it should be. It’s a human issue.
@Anormaly100.I under stand were you are coming from,I paid taxes,for medicare,gave to charities,and now can’t get help from no one.I have a girl 46 years old she has done the same,now she is legally blind sight 20/400 in both eyes.she can’t get SSI,or medicaid and it makes me mad as h— but what can I do.We paid into the goverment for years,now she needs help an no one want to hear it.she had to move back in the house with us and we take care of her with no help,so I understand the human issue.
Your conversation with Tom Payne was excruciating. As expected he never answered the question about his potential accident or about his dialog with the man in the video. Or so many other questions posed by you.
So many cliche’s and buzzwords to cover an agenda stuck in prehistoric mud. What really bothered me was the well thought out and thorough responses from you. There will not be any effect on a permanently closed mind. Mario making cogent comments in your dialog(?) is akin to CASTING PEARLS BEFORE SWINE.
There is an excellent article http://tl.gd/ioit on this subject which you should enjoy reading.
@Walter: You see, we aren’t that different at all. In fact, my brother is legally blind with the exact same vision as your daughter (20/400). My best friend’s father was recently discharged from the hospital & put in a rehab. He just had 2 amputations from diabetes & 2 heart procedures in a 3 week period. If he had Medicaid, his rehab now would pay for anything over 20 days but since he doesn’t, he has to leave next week. If you have over $13,000 in your life savings Medicaid will not cover you and this rehab charges over $15,000 per month. He’s 78 yrs old & will have to learn to walk all over again. His 20 days is over this Wednesday. If he stays longer, it will cost him ever penny he has for just a couple of months. You can see how we aren’t so different can’t you? If I could have had a father, I would have picked this man. I had a feeling that you knew how to put politics & talking points aside & discuss this on a human level. I’m so happy to see that I was, for once right about something. I’m sorry though that you’re daughter is not covered. This is what people are fighting for: My best friend’s father & your daughter.
I see a lot of people at D.F.A.C an from the looks of them they have not got $2,000 A month in med.bills that is what they say you have to have to get help from medicaid.In my opinion it is who you are an where you are from,those two thing determines if you get help or not.
@ Walter:I wasn’t aware that you can tell how much a person’s medical bills are from looking at them. I don’t know what the DFAC is if you were talking to me. I’m in a taxi so looking that up might be a problem. Honestly, if you researched this health care we want so badly, I think you might find it to be beneficial to your daughter. I don’t feel that any of us should end up broke simply because our insurance companies are sucking the life out of us. You seem like a good person. Don’t you deserve more respect from your insurance company?
DFAC is department of family an children resources.something that your tax dollars pay for,it is suppose to help people who can’t get help from any place else.It is run by the goverment an state but only certain people can get it,unwed mothers,alien,an people who don’t won’t to work.They are suppose to help people that need it.And her insurance at work paid until the DR. said she would have to have some kind of big word I can’t pronounce,then they said it was not covered under her policy.But wanted her to keep paying her prem.Like I have said before no.one knows what all is in a policy you just know what the agents tell you.
(This comment was original written for the posting “Politicians Bicker; People Die”, but it fits here as well)
Free will is the foundation of our rights as proclaimed by the Founders when they mentioned life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is the common attribute, assigned by God, to each one of us.
The Bill of Rights is written to define what government is NOT allowed to do with regard to our rights, i.e. free will. It assumes that US citizens have free will, and it acknowledges that governments, by their very nature, will attempt to restrict that free will.
Government’s role is to protect its citizens from fraud, theft and outside attacks. As citizens with free will, we are allowed to enter into contracts with whomever we like, and it’s the government’s job to enforce that contract if one of the parties doesn’t fulfill their end of it. If an insurance company doesn’t fulfill the terms of its contract with its customers, the government can be called in to help enforce the contract’s terms. If CIGNA violated the terms of its contract with its customer, it should be called to the table. Ultimately however, it’s the customer’s job to enter into a contract that will guarantee the terms of care that they desire.
The system of health care in this nation does need to be changed, but not at the expense of giving up more of our free will. Much of the problems with health insurance can be traced to government mandates at state levels. By lifting the mandates and allowing people to enter into the contracts that they choose, across state lines, competition will be encouraged, solving many of the issues of high costs.
We do not have a “right” to health care, but living the lifestyle of your choice is a right. We also have a right to enter into a contract with whomever we choose, or not choose. As we mandate that you have a health care contract (removing your right to choose not to), should we also remove your right to choose a lifestyle that increases your need for health care?
We need to start taking back our freedoms, not giving away more of them. As you give more and more of the responsibility for individual decision making to the government, you give up a little more free will. You may be ok with being told what to do because it’s easy for you. Imagine a carefree child living with a parent who makes all their decisions for them. They’re told to eat their vegetables and when to go to bed, but it’s a small sacrifice for having no responsibility, right?
Not for me.
Two points.
A. Health care IS a basic human right. Period.
B. You have not made a case showing where your freedoms are being restricted under the proposed health care plans. If you are happy with your health care provider, then keep it. Keep your insurance, your doctor, your everything.
Handling every situation facing society using an identical set of arguments (free will, smaller government, etc.) might look pretty on paper but in the real world it is quite worthless. Those are real people out there dying every single day because of a health care system which is flawed. Go preach libertarian principles to the guy in the video and let me know what he tells you.
A. You’re wrong. Period.
B. Many millions of people don’t want to pay for health insurance. I didn’t until I was in my mid 30′s. Forcing everyone to join a plan robs them of that choice, thus restricting their freedom to spend that money on something else.
Smaller government is one answer to many of our country’s problems. It’s not the only solution, but it’s a great place to start.
A. We fundamentally disagree so anything else we say on the subject of health care is moot.
B. And many millions do not want to wear seat belts in their cars nor do many millions wish to obey speed limits. Many millions believe they can drive with a blood-alcohol levels way over the limit set by DUI laws. I can go on here but my point is clear.
And just for the heck of it, I’ll take your argument for one more spin. If you got into a serious accident at the age of 29, who would pay for the care you’d receive because you made the decision to not carry health insurance? Answer: everyone out there who did have insurance would pay for your care through increased premiums on their health insurance and/or through the taxes they paid to government. So your recklessness in not carrying health insurance affected people who were a little bit smarter than you who did carry insrance.
You infringed on their rights “thus restricting their freedom to spend that money on something else.”
Who gave you that right?
In a free society, personal consequences are a result of personal decisions. Taking away personal decisions to avoid personal consequences removes freedom from society.
You’re avoiding the contradiction in your argument which I pointed out. Let me restate it again in case you missed it.
Your “personal decision” to not carry health insurance had the possible “consequence” of costing every other taxpayer money in the event of an accident or health issue you were not aware of.
By your own definition, you infringed on the rights of those people by “restricting their freedom to spend that money on something else.”
In summary, your “personal decision” had consequences which were a lot more than “personal”. Deal with that point clearly Tommy with out playing a game of semantics.
The man in the video deserves to have Health Care and not sell everything he owns to get it. That should be his right. When someone like this is brought up in a debate, the subject is changed quickly to our “rights”. Then it gets selfish. They don’t want to pay for anyone else’s health care. We do already as Mario pointed out. Why is this a political issue instead of a human one? It has to do with all the money politicians are making from the Insurance companies, IMO.
Mario – Do you have any statistics about how much it costs us to cover uninsured people (not illegal aliens)? My guess is that it’s a small price relative to the total amount of health care expenses. A doctor friend of mine said 2% of hospital bills go uncollected. Here’s a link to a report from 2004 that puts the number at 2.7%. http://bit.ly/4xkPS
Now, how about you addressing your willingness to throw my freedoms under the bus just because you feel a need to help a stranger.
@Tommy; if you are not including illegal aliens then your argument is specious, and there is no point to it. However illegal aliens make up just a tiny component of those that you have to shell out for:
Gang members (drive around L.A. you see whole bunches of gang members in wheel chairs YOU will be taking care of the rest of their lives) Prisoners (they have more rights than YOU in this case), homeless citizens, low income and children of low income, deadbeats AND the majority of people age 18 to 30, because they are invincible and think Health Insurance is only for health and have not read the Auto Insurance Co stats on what age group is likely to have the highest percent of accidents?
Back to the drawing board Tommy
How sad that you can compare your imaginary loss of freedoms in regards to health care reform, to “helping a stranger”. That helping a stranger, Tommy, is about saving their LIFE.
If Obama was not making a concerted effort to reform health care, I have no doubt that you would have been quite content in leaving the system as is. You once mentioned in passing how the system worked for you anyway. You were happy. I doubt that you and your buddies were out there over the last 8 years sipping wine and discussing the deplorable state of health care.
You can bury your head in the sand all you want…or maybe you honestly don’t give a damn about the suffering out there but, whatever position you’re in, people are dying because of the current system.
Finally, I’ll say this. Your dream of a less intrusive government might be a worthy goal in many instances – you could start with them getting out of the bedrooms of the nation and the bodies of women. But choosing health care as a means to express your libertarian ideals is just so wrong.
I don’t expect you to ever understand but for anyone to ever have to die because of inadequate health insurance or for anyone to ever have to give up their life’s savings because of an illness, in a country as rich as the United States is a crying, disgraceful shame.
I think everyone should be required to have health insurance.when a teen drops off their parents policy,they should have ins.even if the parents have to help pay until they get a job,I know I did help mine (never got paid back)but the point is I felt it my responsiable to make sure ,if something happen they would be taken care of and not be a liability to some one else.I think it was the best thing when it became law that you had to have at least liability auto ins.thought the price would come down,but here came the lawyers,an for every scratch a law suit.It will happen the same way with health care,the shisters will mess it up to.
Also insurance is like a woman,can’t live with them ,can’t live without them. Ha,Ha. It is also like gambling,but do you want to take a chance? It is better to have it an not need it than to need it an not have it.
@Walter- in a perfect world that would be ideal. Unfortunately, many people die from not having insurance, or having it, yet the insurance company won’t cover them. When I was growing up, my mother would never have been able to pay that kind of money. Remember when a divorced woman could harldy rent an apartment? That was my Mom. It’s nice you did the right thing with your kid, but a lot of folks financially can’t.
So I’m right, Mario, you’re willing to throw my right to choose under the bus. Even though the main problem is cost, which could be addressed without getting the government involved, you don’t want to hear it. You’re just jealous of my economic means and want it balanced out.
And by the way, I agree that the government should be out of the bedroom.
I couldn,t afford it ,had to do with out alot but I didn’t want to take the chance.Thank God I never had to use it but once (on my son)but it was there.I had to watch my mother die with cancer,didn’t have no kind of ins.I know it was hard on your MOM she probably more than she could give you.But the point is some people can afford it but put their wants before their needs.
@Walter- You are a good Dad, no doubt about it. My Mother already stretched her dollars as far as they could be stretched..& then some. We had no money. Anything I did in life was from the bottom up. Others are in the position I was in & I don’t mind lending a hand. I don’t truly think you’d deny anyone. This is a human issue & we’re all human (even you Republicans..sorry, a little joke). You pay for other people’s health care anyway. Your premiums & Medicaid is a costly pair! Surely, you can put politics aside & think of the issue as it should be. It’s a human issue.
@Tommy
Yeah, that’s it Tommy. You saw right through me. Everything I’ve written is really about me being jealous of your economic means.
You win.
@Anormaly100.I under stand were you are coming from,I paid taxes,for medicare,gave to charities,and now can’t get help from no one.I have a girl 46 years old she has done the same,now she is legally blind sight 20/400 in both eyes.she can’t get SSI,or medicaid and it makes me mad as h— but what can I do.We paid into the goverment for years,now she needs help an no one want to hear it.she had to move back in the house with us and we take care of her with no help,so I understand the human issue.
Mario,
Your conversation with Tom Payne was excruciating. As expected he never answered the question about his potential accident or about his dialog with the man in the video. Or so many other questions posed by you.
So many cliche’s and buzzwords to cover an agenda stuck in prehistoric mud. What really bothered me was the well thought out and thorough responses from you. There will not be any effect on a permanently closed mind. Mario making cogent comments in your dialog(?) is akin to CASTING PEARLS BEFORE SWINE.
There is an excellent article http://tl.gd/ioit on this subject which you should enjoy reading.
@Walter: You see, we aren’t that different at all. In fact, my brother is legally blind with the exact same vision as your daughter (20/400). My best friend’s father was recently discharged from the hospital & put in a rehab. He just had 2 amputations from diabetes & 2 heart procedures in a 3 week period. If he had Medicaid, his rehab now would pay for anything over 20 days but since he doesn’t, he has to leave next week. If you have over $13,000 in your life savings Medicaid will not cover you and this rehab charges over $15,000 per month. He’s 78 yrs old & will have to learn to walk all over again. His 20 days is over this Wednesday. If he stays longer, it will cost him ever penny he has for just a couple of months. You can see how we aren’t so different can’t you? If I could have had a father, I would have picked this man. I had a feeling that you knew how to put politics & talking points aside & discuss this on a human level. I’m so happy to see that I was, for once right about something. I’m sorry though that you’re daughter is not covered. This is what people are fighting for: My best friend’s father & your daughter.
I see a lot of people at D.F.A.C an from the looks of them they have not got $2,000 A month in med.bills that is what they say you have to have to get help from medicaid.In my opinion it is who you are an where you are from,those two thing determines if you get help or not.
@ Walter:I wasn’t aware that you can tell how much a person’s medical bills are from looking at them. I don’t know what the DFAC is if you were talking to me. I’m in a taxi so looking that up might be a problem. Honestly, if you researched this health care we want so badly, I think you might find it to be beneficial to your daughter. I don’t feel that any of us should end up broke simply because our insurance companies are sucking the life out of us. You seem like a good person. Don’t you deserve more respect from your insurance company?
DFAC is department of family an children resources.something that your tax dollars pay for,it is suppose to help people who can’t get help from any place else.It is run by the goverment an state but only certain people can get it,unwed mothers,alien,an people who don’t won’t to work.They are suppose to help people that need it.And her insurance at work paid until the DR. said she would have to have some kind of big word I can’t pronounce,then they said it was not covered under her policy.But wanted her to keep paying her prem.Like I have said before no.one knows what all is in a policy you just know what the agents tell you.