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		<title>By: Mario Piperni dot Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cartoon Of The Day - 9/11 Trial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mario Piperni dot Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cartoon Of The Day - 9/11 Trial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] -mario piperni  November 16, 2009 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tennessean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blanca, &quot;Media Matters&quot;, &quot;Huffington Post&quot;.

Does &quot;who he is&quot; make the statement untrue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blanca, &#8220;Media Matters&#8221;, &#8220;Huffington Post&#8221;.</p>
<p>Does &#8220;who he is&#8221; make the statement untrue?</p>
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		<title>By: Frances</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TN sounds paranoid to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TN sounds paranoid to me.</p>
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		<title>By: BlancaCarta</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlancaCarta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg. A quote from Dick Morris to make a point against Obama is equivalent to quoting bin Laden to make a point against infidels. How ridiculous and unconvincing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg. A quote from Dick Morris to make a point against Obama is equivalent to quoting bin Laden to make a point against infidels. How ridiculous and unconvincing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessean</title>
		<link>http://mariopiperni.com/terrorism/the-911-trials-fear-over-reason-and-strength.php/comment-page-1#comment-10597</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frances and the rest, I do not think the US Constitution or the US Rule of Law applies to non US Citizen War Criminals.

Simple.

I don&#039;t &quot;fear&quot; them being tried anywhere.  I just don&#039;t think it is the proper way to handle it.  I think it is strictly a political move by Dems and Liberals to put the previous Administration on trial.  I think they are perfectly willing to run the risk that one or more of these people get off on some technicality if the net result is the previous Administration is embarrassed or in some way discredited or indicted.

Do you honestly not think Lawyers for these whack jobs are NOT going to attempt to subpoena Bush and Cheney?  Of COURSE you understand that.  That is precisely what you want.

&quot; As he likely decides to send more troops to Afghanistan and eyes abandoning the &quot;public option&quot; to secure Senate passage of his health-care plan, Obama has to rebuild his credibility on the left. A public circus that focuses on waterboarding and interrogations could be just what he wants and needs.&quot;  ~Dick Morris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frances and the rest, I do not think the US Constitution or the US Rule of Law applies to non US Citizen War Criminals.</p>
<p>Simple.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t &#8220;fear&#8221; them being tried anywhere.  I just don&#8217;t think it is the proper way to handle it.  I think it is strictly a political move by Dems and Liberals to put the previous Administration on trial.  I think they are perfectly willing to run the risk that one or more of these people get off on some technicality if the net result is the previous Administration is embarrassed or in some way discredited or indicted.</p>
<p>Do you honestly not think Lawyers for these whack jobs are NOT going to attempt to subpoena Bush and Cheney?  Of COURSE you understand that.  That is precisely what you want.</p>
<p>&#8221; As he likely decides to send more troops to Afghanistan and eyes abandoning the &#8220;public option&#8221; to secure Senate passage of his health-care plan, Obama has to rebuild his credibility on the left. A public circus that focuses on waterboarding and interrogations could be just what he wants and needs.&#8221;  ~Dick Morris</p>
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		<title>By: janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some conservatives are against the fear mongering in this regard


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/conservatives-say-gitmo-detainees-would-be-fine-in-il-prison-warn-gop-of-scaremongering.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some conservatives are against the fear mongering in this regard</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/conservatives-say-gitmo-detainees-would-be-fine-in-il-prison-warn-gop-of-scaremongering.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/conservatives-say-gitmo-detainees-would-be-fine-in-il-prison-warn-gop-of-scaremongering.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frances</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy Pane, fortunately it is not up to Democrats or Republicans how these people are tried - it is up to the rule of law. Those who are on the side of the rule of law would be on the side of the rule of law regardless of their party affiliation. One cannot be for the Constitution and against the rule of law. When one party or another has faded away, when one administration comes and goes, the Constitution and the law it provides must remain a constant. It must not be interpreted as &quot;for some and not for others&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy Pane, fortunately it is not up to Democrats or Republicans how these people are tried &#8211; it is up to the rule of law. Those who are on the side of the rule of law would be on the side of the rule of law regardless of their party affiliation. One cannot be for the Constitution and against the rule of law. When one party or another has faded away, when one administration comes and goes, the Constitution and the law it provides must remain a constant. It must not be interpreted as &#8220;for some and not for others&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Pane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Pane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree with using the civilian court system. I just think, since the guy admitted to it, we shouldn&#039;t waste the time or money.

As for the Muslim world, here&#039;s what the Imam that the Fort Hood shooter confided in has to say about his actions:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575242,00.html?test=latestnews

&quot;The imam told Shaea that the Fort Hood attack was acceptable under Islam. &#039;America was the one who first brought the battle to Muslim countries,&#039; al-Awlaki said.

Al-Awlaki also denounced Muslims who condemned the attack. &#039;They say American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan should be killed,&#039; the imam argued, &#039;so how can they say the American soldier should not be killed at the moment they are going to Iraq and Afghanistan?&#039;&quot;

I don&#039;t have a solution to this problem. However, I live by the rule that &quot;you get what you put your attention on&quot;. As much as repubs seem to be attacking this idea as bad, dems are using repub attacks to disparage repubs. It&#039;s just another political football. Once again, we&#039;re getting kicked back and forth by people who just want to control the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with using the civilian court system. I just think, since the guy admitted to it, we shouldn&#8217;t waste the time or money.</p>
<p>As for the Muslim world, here&#8217;s what the Imam that the Fort Hood shooter confided in has to say about his actions:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575242,00.html?test=latestnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575242,00.html?test=latestnews</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The imam told Shaea that the Fort Hood attack was acceptable under Islam. &#8216;America was the one who first brought the battle to Muslim countries,&#8217; al-Awlaki said.</p>
<p>Al-Awlaki also denounced Muslims who condemned the attack. &#8216;They say American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan should be killed,&#8217; the imam argued, &#8216;so how can they say the American soldier should not be killed at the moment they are going to Iraq and Afghanistan?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a solution to this problem. However, I live by the rule that &#8220;you get what you put your attention on&#8221;. As much as repubs seem to be attacking this idea as bad, dems are using repub attacks to disparage repubs. It&#8217;s just another political football. Once again, we&#8217;re getting kicked back and forth by people who just want to control the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, well enough put.  I disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, well enough put.  I disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tennessean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Moussaoui, could 9/11 have been averted if we had used some &quot;Enhanced Interrogation Techniques&quot; on him?  Or just used prudent Judicial sense?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui

On August 16, 2001, Moussaoui was arrested by Harry Samit of the FBI and INS agents in Minnesota and charged with an immigration violation[15]. Materials itemized when he was arrested included a laptop computer, two knives, flight manuals pertaining to Boeing&#039;s 747 aircraft, a flight simulator computer program, fighting gloves and shin guards, and a computer disk with information about crop dusting.[15]

Some agents worried that his flight training had violent intentions, so the Minnesota bureau tried to get permission (sending over 70 emails in a week) to search his laptop, but they were turned down.[16] FBI agent Coleen Rowley made an explicit request for permission to search Moussaoui&#039;s personal rooms. This request was first denied by her superior, Deputy General Counsel Marion &quot;Spike&quot; Bowman, and later rejected based upon FISA regulations (amended after 9/11 by the USA Patriot Act). Several further search attempts similarly failed.

FBI watchdog Sen. Chuck Grassley, Republican-Iowa, later wrote to FBI Director Robert Mueller:

    If the application for the FISA warrant had gone forward, agents would have found information in Moussaoui&#039;s belongings that linked him both to a major financier of the hijacking plot working out of Germany, and to a Malaysian al-Qaida boss who had met with at least two other hijackers while under surveillance by intelligence officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Moussaoui, could 9/11 have been averted if we had used some &#8220;Enhanced Interrogation Techniques&#8221; on him?  Or just used prudent Judicial sense?</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui</a></p>
<p>On August 16, 2001, Moussaoui was arrested by Harry Samit of the FBI and INS agents in Minnesota and charged with an immigration violation[15]. Materials itemized when he was arrested included a laptop computer, two knives, flight manuals pertaining to Boeing&#8217;s 747 aircraft, a flight simulator computer program, fighting gloves and shin guards, and a computer disk with information about crop dusting.[15]</p>
<p>Some agents worried that his flight training had violent intentions, so the Minnesota bureau tried to get permission (sending over 70 emails in a week) to search his laptop, but they were turned down.[16] FBI agent Coleen Rowley made an explicit request for permission to search Moussaoui&#8217;s personal rooms. This request was first denied by her superior, Deputy General Counsel Marion &#8220;Spike&#8221; Bowman, and later rejected based upon FISA regulations (amended after 9/11 by the USA Patriot Act). Several further search attempts similarly failed.</p>
<p>FBI watchdog Sen. Chuck Grassley, Republican-Iowa, later wrote to FBI Director Robert Mueller:</p>
<p>    If the application for the FISA warrant had gone forward, agents would have found information in Moussaoui&#8217;s belongings that linked him both to a major financier of the hijacking plot working out of Germany, and to a Malaysian al-Qaida boss who had met with at least two other hijackers while under surveillance by intelligence officials.</p>
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