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Another Republican Who Gets It

Following up on my last post, here’s Joe Scarborough on Republican criticism of Obama over Iran…

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Comments

  1. Anonymous says:

    I’m not a Scarborough fan by any means but it’s nice to see a pundit/politician with the integrity to be able to criticize his own party when they disagree.

  2. Janine says:

    Anon, Ditto; and now there are three or four Republicans who get it, not quite enough for a tipping point……

  3. liberalsRs....d says:

    So, obviously you people feel it’s appropriate for the Leader Of The Free World to sit placidly on his “mouth” while people die in the streets begging for freedom and democracy?

    And of course, you completely ignore that his silence has gained nothing but a moral vacuum.

    “I advise you (the United States and Britain) to correct your interfering stances,” Ahmadinejad was quoted by ISNA news agency as saying at a meeting with clerics and scholars.

    http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wgvu/news.newsmain/article/0/0/1520389/World/Iran.blames.%27terrorists%27.for.clashes

    Again, I question the intellectual consistency of people who can muster up outrage for harsh treatment of murderers and terrorists while sitting quietly by as young people are murdered in the streets.

    And you have the audacity to question my motive.

  4. Lantos says:

    What is so difficult in understanding that to give direct cause to the Iranian government to point to the President’s words as proof that the U.S. is promoting the rebellion, would work against us. If the Iranian revolution is to amount to anything it must be seen as being a true revolt from the people and not one fueled by American influence.

    Conservative Peggy Noonan explains it so well.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124535660563828707.html

  5. arctic_tundra says:

    @Lantos

    Well said.

  6. SJCAlumni1979 says:

    You are correct. I agree with your statement.

  7. liberalsRs....d says:

    It’s not difficult to understand. But they will and ARE blaming us regardless. I just think it’s typical liberal moral corruption to leave those poor people hanging in the wind.

  8. Blue Heron says:

    How the heck do you see that as leaving them hanging in the wind? What do you suggest, storm into their country like we did to Iraq in the name of democracy??? Seriously, what should the President do, in your opinion? We’re already in two wars.

  9. Maria Sofia Belgara says:

    We cannot be the world’s traffic cops! We cannot impose our democracy ideals (which we need to start practicing at home) to other governments… It is just not acceptable.

    Its like someone charging into your home because you have problems with your wife and chilren…

    Iran needs to figure it out. It might also be a ploy to entice and provoke us into a war.

    Who knows, but we need be calm and remember:

    “If you sit by the river long enough, you will see the body of your enemy float by.”

  10. liberalsRs....d says:

    Well….a firm statement supporting the Demonstrators and calling on the regime to stopping killing them in the streets would be a nice start.

  11. liberalsRs....d says:

    You don’t have to be a traffic cop OR start a war to unequivocally show support and solidarity for the young people being disenfranchised and murdered.

    Instead, we have a eunuch of a President, sitting on the sidelines like a puppy, waiting for the Ayatollahs to favor him with a pat on the head while in the streets, they practice extreme oppression and murder.

    What does the U.S. stand for these days?

  12. mario says:

    @liberal

    “What does the U.S. stand for these days?”

    Don’t even go there. As a Bush supporter who condoned torture along with abuses of the Constitution, you have no credibility in this area.

    Take off your partisan hat for a moment and think this through. The world and the Iranian protesters are fully aware of where the U.S. stands on the elections. No one is in doubt which side the American government is on. What you don’t want or need is to empower the Iranian government to use the U.S. as an excuse to pull off a Tienanmen Square. Basically, it’s a matter of not giving Iran the moral authority to kill recklessly. They still might, but no one should make it easier for them to do so.

    You’re a politically savvy guy, so I know you understand that politics is as much about perception as it is reality. The last administration viewed politics as a game of demolition derby (or Risk). The current one understands that politics more resembles a chess game.

  13. liberalsRs....d says:

    @mario

    “As a Bush supporter who condoned torture along with abuses of the Constitution, you have no credibility in this area.”

    You just can’t resist can you. Beginning a discourse with trash like this from a gentleman that is supposedly intelligent is pathetically ignorant, in my opinion.

    The US is in a moral dilemma. All things considered, I don’t see we have anything to gain by the Leader of the Free World sitting on the side lines, begging for droppings from the Ayatollahs.

    President Empty Suit Eunuch came out of the gate stating he was ready and willing to sit down and talk to the Achmenijad regime immediately after the “elections”. Don’t you think a bit less enthusiastic endorsement of this oppressive and lunatic regime might have been more appropriate?

    But no. President Eunuch legitimatizes Achmenijad’s government even as it is murdering people in the streets. These young people are demonstrating in the streets, risking their lives while bearing signs in English. Why do you think they are doing this Piperni? You think maybe they are trying to get the attention and support of the US and our Empty Suit, Eunuch of a President???

    But you guys are so quick to slobber your approval over anything this Charlatan of a President does, you can’t see beyond your bias.

    Piperni, you and the other members of your little circle j–k party here look at the images of these young people being shot and bleeding to death in the streets…..then imagine it’s YOUR daughter. And then ask yourselves…..Could a stronger message from the Leader of the Free World possibly have saved her??

  14. mario says:

    The Iranian government already condemns the U.S. as an evil corrupt nation. Do you believe that anything Obama could say would change that? For the time being, it would appear smarter to show speak out against violence while not publicly choosing sides. Again, the entire world knows which side the U.S. is on.

    Tell us, what would you want Obama to say and, more important, how do you think it would help the cause of freedom in Iran?

  15. liberalsRs....d says:

    @mario

    “The Iranian government already condemns the U.S. as an evil corrupt nation.”

    So you do get it? What do we have to gain by legitimizing this Government and sitting quietly on the sidelines, waiting for some scrap to fall from the Ayatollah’s table? They will project and perceive us as the cause no matter what. And they have.

    I want to see the Leader of the Free World stand firmly and unequivocally behind freedom and AGAINST murdering people in the streets. I would like to see him stop equivocating, grovelling for some sort of acceptance and favor from a source that will never give it.

    I want to see a Leader that understands no matter how much he grovels and begs, he will never gain acceptance from these people that have been hating us for centuries. All he accomplishes is to portray the US exactly as they perceive us. Morally bankrupt and corrupt….and weak.

    Or are you prepared to try and make a case that the grovelling he has done so far has resulted in anything other than more blatant confrontation and agitation?

    (btw….your new posting scheme doesn’t seem to be working as yet. And I still don’t get all the little composition goodies. (smiles, font options) I got them one time when I logged on and haven’t gotten them since. Using Firefox and everything is updated. Have same problems on Explorer.)

  16. liberalsRs....d says:

    (btw….your new posting scheme doesn’t seem to be working as yet.)

    Sorry. Yes it does. I read too quickly and thought latest post sorted top to bottom. Latest post IS coming at bottom.)

  17. Maria Sofia Belgara says:

    @LiberalsRs…d

    President Empty Suit Eunuch just responded to Iran:

    President Obama harshly condemned the Iranian crackdown against the protests on Tuesday, declaring the world “appalled and outraged.”

  18. liberalsRs....d says:

    Funny, when asked if he was influenced by criticism from others, he responded, “What do you think?” leaving the impression that he was.

  19. Maria Sofia Belgara says:

    @lib @mario
    Our wonderful presidentt does not act according to the media. You should know better.

    Writing this because Joe Scarborough is on this Wednesday morning and he said: “We are not nation builders for countries in the middle east!” He is reporting from South Beach, Miami. It must be the “Mojitos” and the sun that have his brain this morning? Well, he is saying what I said above. We are not traffic cops for the world.

    Maybe Joe is stragegizing to run for the republicans. At least he iis ntelligent. I like him. Even when he has dissenting views he is not offensive. You go Joe!

  20. Blue Heron says:

    @Maria

    Joe S. has wised-up some, but how long have you been listening to this jerk? He has been so demeaning to the women he works with at MSNBC, on the air no less. Since he’s been promoting his book (Wow, what an original title, NOT)he’s lightened up on Mika and female guests. He can be obnoxious and hard to listen to at times. Like the President said, he has something in common with Mika, a sidekick that doesn’t know when to stop talking…but you gotta love Joe Biden. Joe S., he needs to be off the air as far as I’m concerned.

    @lib

    “Funny, when asked if he was influenced by criticism from others, he responded, “What do you think?” leaving the impression that he was.”

    You can’t be serious!!! Obviously you haven’t LISTENED very well or read our President’s body language in the past to know when he’s just this side of sarcastic. He could give a flying F***K in a rolling donut what they think.

  21. liberalsRs....d says:

    @blue…virtually every analysis of the President’s remarks I have read or heard supports that he was indeed influenced by not only Republican comments, but comments from within his own party questioning his position.

    Honestly, I’ve probably read, watched and listened to more of President Empty Suit’s remarks than is healthy. This man has the potential to be a very dangerous individual for my country. All I can do is observe and try to inform numb skulls like you of what is going on under their noses!! Yes Sir. I have listened well without the disadvantage of being star struck. You should try it.

    I know you can’t see it as that tingle has obviously moved from your leg to your brain.

  22. Blue Heron says:

    @lib

    I guess if you only listen to FOX, I understand. You sound like me back in 2000 about what Bush and his posse were a’ridin’ into the White House to do to this country. Numb skulls like you voted for him a second time to contine to run this country into the ground with wars and the biggest transfer of our $$ that we’ve ever seen and bankrupt this country. Dems didn’t do that S**T for Brains! The buck stops with the President of this country, no matter what you say!

    Starstruck, no. I save that and the tingle for the Moody Blues.

  23. liberalsRs....d says:

    @blue….It’s hard for me to take you seriously when virtually every comment you post concerning Barry drips with little teenage, girlie infatuation for President Eunuch.

    “I love how the President handled…”

    “I’ve never seen a politician be as honest as…”

    “….or read our President’s body language…”

    ….the list goes on and on.

    “….the biggest transfer of our $$ that we’ve ever seen and bankrupt this country.”

    And President Big Spender has obligated the U.S. to how many trillions of dollars? That was borrowed from foreign countries? And is trying his darnedest to spend 10′s of trillions more??? And is printing unsecured dollars at an incredible rate??

    I think tingling ain’t ALL you’re doing with the Moody Blues. Must be some real good stuff you’re smoking!

  24. Blue Heron says:

    Yes, as a matter of fact it is good stuff, and I inhale :o)

    And Bush didn’t: obligate the U.S. to how many trillions of dollars; borrow from foreign countries; print unsecured dollars at an incredible rate??? At least there’s an adult in the White House now that’s trying to clean up the mess. He deserves an honest shot at it. Just sit tight, don’t blow a gasket, and try inhaling.

    I am in awe that a politician has finally come forward that isn’t full of lies, manipulation, and criminal tendencies.