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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) went to the House floor Thursday night, to warn of a diabolical terrorist plot — with a 20-30 year timeline.
The plot involves arranging for a child to be born in the United States — then training them in an isolated environment abroad, ready to dispatch them back here to commit violence after a quick two or three decades.
“I talked to a retired FBI agent who said that one of the things they were looking at were terrorist cells overseas who had figured out how to game our system. And it appeared they would have young women, who became pregnant, would get them into the United States to have a baby,” said Gohmert. “They wouldn’t even have to pay anything for the baby. And then they would turn back where they could be raised and coddled as future terrorists. And then one day, twenty, thirty years down the road, they can be sent in to help destroy our way of life. ‘Cause they figured out how stupid we are being in this country to allow our enemies to game our system, hurt our economy, get set up in a position to destroy our way of life.”
How does one respond to such madness? What can you say about these clowns that has not been said a thousand time?
The shocker?
Most people listening to that drivel don’t think for a minute to question it. And the newest poll?
People identifying themselves as conservative is increasing significantly.
Sig Heil!
Man I thought you were going to say that Goober… Gomer, whatever his name was, was suggesting all of that and then that the plan was for this “terrorist” to be elected President…
I am at a complete lose to understand how these people get so wacky and how they keep getting reelected after it becomes obvious that they are not rational?
I have sometimes about pronouncements like this – death panels, the NAFTA highway, things like that – and wonde where they come from. GOhmert was really Pyling it on here. Did he come up with this on his own, or is there an underground psycho think tank where a bunch of Hollywood washouts sit around and come up with scripts that wouldn’t even amke a bad wpisode of 24?
This plot in particular – what’s the point? Is it to get “foreigners” with American birth credentials? So much easier to forge them. Is it to pass them off as Americans? Sorry, but if they’re raised “in isolation” they will not be part of American culture.
Back in the Cold War days, we were told that the Soviets built replica American towns where they would immerse their people in US language, media and culture to enable them to be able to move about undetectably here. Part of the point of the book in whch I read this was that this method didn’t work. The author claimed that infiltrators trained in those camps were invariably caught, whereas the US, who relied on subverting Soviet citizens, were more successful.
We used to lock up people with such delusions, make them wear a paper gown and give them electric shock therapy. Lucky for him and his ilk that the evil libruls fought to close down lunatic asylums.
Paranoid lunatic. It’s not an unheard of concept. A twisted concept, but not unheard of. In the frame of mind of some Republican’s that I have been reading, and hearing from, as in Mexican anchor babies, Arab Muslims planted here by Bin Laden, and maybe a dash of Nazism. At least that is how Gohmert sounds to me. It would make sence in a freakish way, in that he believed this because he thinks the President is a Muslim from Kenya. It would make a good science fiction movie, yes?
There are so many holes in this scenario one doesn’t know where to start. It is unnecessarily complicated for no apparent reason. There is no need for an American birth for example. There are many ways to get a Manchurian Candidate into this country, such as a student visa. Gohmert is obviously not a critical thinker. And saying “destroy our way of life”, how could one person manage that, assuming that we know what he means by that extreme vagary? It sounds to me like a combination of the Obama “birthers” and the anti-Christ believers as described by an average 5th grader.
What fascinates me is how the election of a black man brought all of the cray crays out of the woodwork, and with no apparent shame.
Prior to Obama’s election, I thouught that there were still a few vestigial racists, a few complete nuts, etc… Nothing suggested to me that we are a nation of idiots.
Now, Fox News’ sky-rocketing ratings alone shatter my previously-held beliefs.
The National Enquirer has been elevated to our newspaper of choice.
Anti-intellectualism runs rampant. Runes and signs hold sway over reason.
All of this simply because a black man was elected president.
Janet, it would most definitely NOT make a good science fiction movie. Like any other genre, science fiction requires a story that is, within its own framework, plausible and logical. A bad story is a bad story, whether it’s science fiction, mystery, romance or what have you. To extend the science fiction metaphor, this would make “Battlefield Earth” look like “Gone With The Wind”.
Sorry to be snappish, but I number several science fiction writers in my extended circle of acquaintances, and they are all very proud of their craft both as an expression of imagination as well as the art of the story.
“Who’s the larger dolt; the ranting lunatic with a megaphone, or the person who extends and magnifies his rantings by repeating them?”
The ranting lunatic. But here is another question. Who is the larger fool; the ranting lunatic or the one who tries to defend him by attacking the messenger?
Tommy’s point would be well taken if madness of this sort was an isolated case. If it was so then ignoring them would be the best approach. But that is not the case. There have been so many comments of this type from both conservative media and elected Republican politicians that ignoring them would be equivalent to agreeing with them. No, the best approach is to mock them at every turn.
E.A. Blair,
Er, oh come on, plausible, logical, in science FICTION? I don’t agree. I love science fiction, minus the slasher type movies, and I really can’t understand your offense. You have friends that write science fiction, and this makes a silly suggestion for a movie offensive? Pardon me.
Peace
@Janet: No storytelling is good unless, within its context, it is plausible and logical. Including Science Fiction. Especially Science Fiction, because if you’re world-building, that world had better make sense within its own confines (which is different from the confines of our own subjective reality), lest the reader be distracted by their own brains saying, “but that doesn’t make sense!” rather than become a witness to the *story*.
The lunatic fringe and this belief in training up U.S. born babies to… whatever might make a good psychological study or *maybe* an espionage film. But Science Fiction it is not.
And nowhere did I see E.A. Blair claim to be “offended.”
And lest this thread devolve into an argument about genre and story structure, I’ll leave the last word to you, if you want it.
Janet, if you consider slasher movies science fiction, I really feel sorry for your literary soul. A science fiction story has to be a STORY, first and foremost. A bad story is a bad story no matter what genre it’s in. You can’t say you love science fiction if you put Gohmert’s rantings in that category.
P.S.: I didn’t say that I have friends who write science fiction. I said that I number among my friends science fiction authors. Quite another situation.
E.A. I’m tired of this. None of this has anything to do with Mario’s original post. I don’t care anymore WHAT you said, and you didn’t exactly get my post in truth either. My literary soul? You know nothing about me. You have no cause to feel sorry for me in any fashion. I tried for peace, but you don’t seem to want that, so just leave me alone already, thanks.
“how stupid we are being in this country”
The stupid people he is referring to are of course those who voted McCain and Palin in 2008 and Bush in 2000 and 2004. I concur.
This idiocy has rendered speechless. (a temporary condition I assure you)
I am surprised they haven’t blamed Obama for the tropical storms forming
Certifiable.
The shocker?
Most people listening to that drivel don’t think for a minute to question it. And the newest poll?
People identifying themselves as conservative is increasing significantly.
Sig Heil!
Man I thought you were going to say that Goober… Gomer, whatever his name was, was suggesting all of that and then that the plan was for this “terrorist” to be elected President…
Oh Hell. I hope I didn’t give him an idea…
I am at a complete lose to understand how these people get so wacky and how they keep getting reelected after it becomes obvious that they are not rational?
@dinamic Ignorant people vote for like-minded people.
I have sometimes about pronouncements like this – death panels, the NAFTA highway, things like that – and wonde where they come from. GOhmert was really Pyling it on here. Did he come up with this on his own, or is there an underground psycho think tank where a bunch of Hollywood washouts sit around and come up with scripts that wouldn’t even amke a bad wpisode of 24?
This plot in particular – what’s the point? Is it to get “foreigners” with American birth credentials? So much easier to forge them. Is it to pass them off as Americans? Sorry, but if they’re raised “in isolation” they will not be part of American culture.
Back in the Cold War days, we were told that the Soviets built replica American towns where they would immerse their people in US language, media and culture to enable them to be able to move about undetectably here. Part of the point of the book in whch I read this was that this method didn’t work. The author claimed that infiltrators trained in those camps were invariably caught, whereas the US, who relied on subverting Soviet citizens, were more successful.
We used to lock up people with such delusions, make them wear a paper gown and give them electric shock therapy. Lucky for him and his ilk that the evil libruls fought to close down lunatic asylums.
Paranoid lunatic. It’s not an unheard of concept. A twisted concept, but not unheard of. In the frame of mind of some Republican’s that I have been reading, and hearing from, as in Mexican anchor babies, Arab Muslims planted here by Bin Laden, and maybe a dash of Nazism. At least that is how Gohmert sounds to me. It would make sence in a freakish way, in that he believed this because he thinks the President is a Muslim from Kenya. It would make a good science fiction movie, yes?
Hi Caroline.
There are so many holes in this scenario one doesn’t know where to start. It is unnecessarily complicated for no apparent reason. There is no need for an American birth for example. There are many ways to get a Manchurian Candidate into this country, such as a student visa. Gohmert is obviously not a critical thinker. And saying “destroy our way of life”, how could one person manage that, assuming that we know what he means by that extreme vagary? It sounds to me like a combination of the Obama “birthers” and the anti-Christ believers as described by an average 5th grader.
What fascinates me is how the election of a black man brought all of the cray crays out of the woodwork, and with no apparent shame.
Prior to Obama’s election, I thouught that there were still a few vestigial racists, a few complete nuts, etc… Nothing suggested to me that we are a nation of idiots.
Now, Fox News’ sky-rocketing ratings alone shatter my previously-held beliefs.
The National Enquirer has been elevated to our newspaper of choice.
Anti-intellectualism runs rampant. Runes and signs hold sway over reason.
All of this simply because a black man was elected president.
Janet, it would most definitely NOT make a good science fiction movie. Like any other genre, science fiction requires a story that is, within its own framework, plausible and logical. A bad story is a bad story, whether it’s science fiction, mystery, romance or what have you. To extend the science fiction metaphor, this would make “Battlefield Earth” look like “Gone With The Wind”.
Sorry to be snappish, but I number several science fiction writers in my extended circle of acquaintances, and they are all very proud of their craft both as an expression of imagination as well as the art of the story.
Who’s the larger dolt; the ranting lunatic with a megaphone, or the person who extends and magnifies his rantings by repeating them?
“Who’s the larger dolt; the ranting lunatic with a megaphone, or the person who extends and magnifies his rantings by repeating them?”
The ranting lunatic. But here is another question. Who is the larger fool; the ranting lunatic or the one who tries to defend him by attacking the messenger?
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Tommy’s point would be well taken if madness of this sort was an isolated case. If it was so then ignoring them would be the best approach. But that is not the case. There have been so many comments of this type from both conservative media and elected Republican politicians that ignoring them would be equivalent to agreeing with them. No, the best approach is to mock them at every turn.
E.A. Blair,
Er, oh come on, plausible, logical, in science FICTION? I don’t agree. I love science fiction, minus the slasher type movies, and I really can’t understand your offense. You have friends that write science fiction, and this makes a silly suggestion for a movie offensive? Pardon me.
Peace
@Janet: No storytelling is good unless, within its context, it is plausible and logical. Including Science Fiction. Especially Science Fiction, because if you’re world-building, that world had better make sense within its own confines (which is different from the confines of our own subjective reality), lest the reader be distracted by their own brains saying, “but that doesn’t make sense!” rather than become a witness to the *story*.
The lunatic fringe and this belief in training up U.S. born babies to… whatever might make a good psychological study or *maybe* an espionage film. But Science Fiction it is not.
And nowhere did I see E.A. Blair claim to be “offended.”
And lest this thread devolve into an argument about genre and story structure, I’ll leave the last word to you, if you want it.
Not really, I choose my battles and this one has gotten plain silly. Whatever.
Janet, if you consider slasher movies science fiction, I really feel sorry for your literary soul. A science fiction story has to be a STORY, first and foremost. A bad story is a bad story no matter what genre it’s in. You can’t say you love science fiction if you put Gohmert’s rantings in that category.
P.S.: I didn’t say that I have friends who write science fiction. I said that I number among my friends science fiction authors. Quite another situation.
E.A. I’m tired of this. None of this has anything to do with Mario’s original post. I don’t care anymore WHAT you said, and you didn’t exactly get my post in truth either. My literary soul? You know nothing about me. You have no cause to feel sorry for me in any fashion. I tried for peace, but you don’t seem to want that, so just leave me alone already, thanks.