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  • A Romney Victory Is Ensured With Trump’s Endorsement ()

    A Romney Victory Is Ensured With Trump's Endorsement ()

    As if you needed another reason to not vote Romney. Celebrity business magnate Donald Trump endorsed Mitt Romney for president Thursday, telling reporters he will not mount an independent campaign if ...

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  • Why I Love Newt Gingrich

    Why I Love Newt Gingrich

    In a perfect world, the Republican contest to find a nominee to face Barack Obama would go on forever...or at least until August. You cannot attach a number to the ...

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  • Republican Cannibalism

    Republican Cannibalism

    I suspect there are a ton of conservatives secretly agreeing with Begala and while it's too early in the game for Dems to get cocky, it's difficult to not smile ...

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  • Romney Hood

    Romney Hood

    One of our readers sent me an email with an idea for an illustration - Mitt Romney as Romney Hood. I thought it was brilliant and came up with the ...

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  • Why Do People Take an Instant Dislike To Newt Gingrich?

    Why Do People Take an Instant Dislike To Newt Gingrich?

    Quotes don't get much better than this one by Bob Dole. "Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?" asked a perplexed Gingrich, to whom Dole bluntly ...

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  • Gingrich Takes A Thrashing

    Gingrich Takes A Thrashing

    After the beating Gingrich took last night, it's hard to imagine under what scenario he can make a comeback.  Florida is going to Romney and for Gingrich to regain the ...

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  • SOTU

    SOTU

    There's a lot out there on the President's SOTU, so I'll keep my thoughts short and sweet. The speech did what it had to do which was target liberals and independents ...

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  • Just Another GOP Debate

    Just Another GOP Debate

    The highlights from last night's debate. - Newt Gingrich can't wait to become president so he can revisit the early 60s and overthrow Castro in Cuba. War, baby, war. - Santorum, who ...

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  • No More Mister Nice Guy for Mitt Romney

    No More Mister Nice Guy for Mitt Romney

    It appears that the South Carolina verdict is forcing Romney to start taking Gingrich seriously. “We’re not choosing a talk show host, we’re choosing a leader,” Romney said, saying that their ...

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  • Mike Huckabee Solidifies His Birther Creds

    Mike Huckabee Solidifies His Birther Creds

    Mike Huckabee offers advice to Mitt Romney concerning his unreleased tax returns. Let him [Romney] make this challenge: "I'll release my tax returns when Barack Obama releases his college transcripts and ...

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  • Late Night Political Humor

    Late Night Political Humor

    Via Political Humor... "Mitt Romney is coming under fire because even though he is a multimillionaire, he only paid 15 percent in taxes. That's not a tax, that's barely a tip." ...

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  • The Last Word On Jon Huntsman

    The Last Word On Jon Huntsman

    Good line. My guess is that after Romney fails to beat Obama in the general, Huntsman will be back in 2016.  The most electable guy in the field and he could ...

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  • Does Romney Urinate Straight Down His Leg?

    Does Romney Urinate Straight Down His Leg?

    I found this pretty funny...and accurate. It comes from a reader over at Balloon Juice. So, let’s review. The contenders for the GOP nomination are A vulture capitalist who believes that any ...

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  • The Constitution – Libertarian’s False Idol

    The Constitution - Libertarian's False Idol

    Lively little debate going on at one of last week's posts with Libertarianism put under the microscope. ocLiberal: I know I am in sketchy territory here, (start the indignant shouting now) but ...

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  • Gingrich’s Delusional Politics

    Gingrich's Delusional Politics

    In the contest to determine the winner of the Far-Right Politics gold medal, rack up a few more points for Newt Gingrich. “I think an intelligent conservative wants the right federal ...

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  • Late Night Political Humor

    Late Night Political Humor

    Via Political Humor... "Congratulations to Mitt Romney. He won the New Hampshire primary last night. See, this is proof that even the multimillionaire son of a multimillionaire can beat the odds ...

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  • What Do North Korea and Indiana Have In Common?

    What Do North Korea and Indiana Have In Common?

    Story 1: North Korea punishing those who 'didn't display enough sadness over Kim Jong Il's death' North Korean authorities are reportedly punishing citizens who did not display enough sadness over the death ...

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  • The Pope’s Hate Speech

    The Pope's Hate Speech

    In case you missed the story, Pope Benedict made headlines this week by doing what it is popes do best - putting the irrational fear of God into his followers. The ...

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  • Mitt Romney’s Idiot Quote of the Day

    Mitt Romney's Idiot Quote of the Day

    Romney was asked whether questions dealing with distribution of wealth and power were a matter of jealousy or fairness. You know, I think it’s about envy. I think it’s about class ...

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  • Is The 2012 Republican Field the Weakest Ever?

    Is The 2012 Republican Field the Weakest Ever?

    If one could meld the Republican presidential candidates into a single person, what would emerge?  I was thinking along the lines of Jekyll and Hyde and the result, as demonstrated ...

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The Benefits Of Having Taken bin Laden Alive

I thought I had pretty much made up my mind on bin Laden being taken out in the way which he was.  An evildoer and the poster boy for terrorism had been killed by American SEALs in a clean and efficient operation in which none of the good guys were harmed. How perfect is that?

I think there is little doubt that the order was given to take out bin Laden on the spot as opposed to capturing him alive. There is no compelling evidence that the powers that be wanted a prolonged trial, one which would have given the al Qaeda leader a platform from which to spout his twisted and demonic justification for the killing of thousands of innocent people. I agreed with that decision to take him out and be done with it. Best to get rid of the vermin on the spot, I thought, than give them a second longer of precious life they did not deserve.

And then I received an email from a regular contributor to these pages, Tommy, who directed me to a post by Michael Moore over at HuffPo – Some Final Thoughts on the Death of Osama bin Laden – and it got me to rethink my position. I was aware of Moore’s position that bin Laden was executed. He pleaded for the President to come clean and admit as much. I simply dismissed Moore’s take as a well-intentioned example of liberal extremism – sweet but not practical in a real world setting. And then I read this from Moore:

In a perfect world [...], I would like the evildoers to be forced to stand trial in front of that world. I know a lot of people see no need for a trial for these bad guys (just hang ‘em from the nearest tree!), and think trials are for sissies. “They’re guilty, off with their heads!” Well, you see, that is the exact description of the Taliban/al Qaeda/Nazi justice system. I don’t like their system. I like ours. And I don’t want to be like them. In fact, the reason I like a good trial is that I like to show these bastards this is how it’s done in a free country that believes in civilized justice. It’s good for the rest of the world to see that, too. Sets a good example.

The other thing a trial does is, it establishes a very public and permanent historic record of the crimes against humanity. This is why we put the Nazis on trial in Nuremberg. We didn’t do it for them. We did it for ourselves and for our grandchildren so that they would never forget these horrors and how they were committed. And we did it for the German people so they could see the evidence of what their elected leaders had done. Very helpful. Very necessary. Very powerful.

And for those who wanted blood back then – well, the majority of the Nazis all hanged in the end. So, it doesn’t mean the bad guys get away – they still swing from the highest tree.

Can anyone see the flaw in Moore’s logic?  I can’t. Yes there is great satisfaction in knowing that justice was served and bin Laden is dead. And it was done, as Bill Maher described it, in Moe Greene fashion – a bullet in the eye. But how does one intelligently counter Moore’s argument about civilized justice and a public and permanent record that a trial would have given? I’d like to hear one.

Revenge is a dangerous game. It suspends reason for the instant gratification it affords us. I recall watching the Charles Bronson Death Wish vigilante movies and feeling somewhat good at watching the bad guys being taken out in the fashion that they were. A thorough beating and assassination, sans trial, of the murderous scum took away any possibility that they’d find a legal loophole they could use to prevent justice being served. Again, instant gratification, vigilante style, took away years of waiting and trials and lawyers doing their thing.  A bullet to the head, instant closure and everyone could move on with their lives. Wonderful…except that in the end what did it all say about ourselves that we would adopt the tactics of the very people we were out to avenge?

I get it and I’m not about to condemn President Obama and the people who made that difficult decision to execute the terrorist leader. Osama bin Laden is dead and anyway you choose to view it, that’s a positive. Moore’s point is that within the bigger framework of justice and the American way, there is a strong argument to be made that the same ending would have been achieved by taking him alive and subjecting him to an open trial for the entire world to see. Yes it would have dragged on for years and bin Laden would have had ample opportunity to defend his actions. But, so what? There is a price to pay for not rendering justice (yes, in the twisted minds of terrorists, killing innocent people is their version of justice) in the way that the Taliban, Nazis and al Qaeda do. As Moore puts it:

Assuming it was possible to take him alive, I think his victims, the future, and the restoration of the American Way deserved better. That’s all I’m saying.

Good riddance Osama.

Come back to your ways, my good ol’ USA.

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Making A Mockery Of Border Security In 18 Seconds

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The U.S/Mexico border fence occupies 700 of the 2000 mile border.  It was built at a cost of $4 million per mile which works out to a total cost of about $3 billion. Maintenance will cost billions more.  Back in September, Bloomberg wrote:

If idiocy were a capital crime, at least 73 percent of Congress would be facing the hangman.

That’s the percentage of legislators who supported the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which created one of the most stunning boondoggles in U.S. history…

Was it worth the cost?  Check out the video below and decide for yourself.




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Law And Disorder

Make what you will of this.

What?  And there’s no room for these two felons?

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(h/t: Foolocracy)

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Right-wing Blogger Convicted of Making Death Threats

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Nice to see scum like this getting what they deserve.

Hal Turner, an online radio “shock jock” and blogger, was convicted on Friday of threatening to kill three federal judges in Chicago, Illinois, in retaliation for a ruling they made that upheld handgun bans, government officials said.

Turner was arrested and charged in June 2009 for posting incendiary comments that said the judges involved in the case deserved to be killed. The three judges he threatened, who had upheld a ban on handguns in Chicago and the Oak Park suburb, testified at the trial.

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The post included photographs of the judges, their phone numbers, addresses and a map of the building where they work.

Turner has been known to post the names and home addresses of judges he believes are on the wrong side of conservative issues, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.

Get a load of his defense.

Turner had sought to portray himself as a “shock jock” and fierce gun control opponent whose tirades were protected by the constitutional right to free speech.

“He thought it was political trash talk,” defense attorney Peter Kirchheimer said in opening statements. “It was the same thing he’d done many times before, only this time he was arrested.”

Testifying in his own defense, Turner said he was a paid FBI informant who was trying to “flush out” dangerous neo-Nazi and white supremacist members of his audience on behalf of the government.

I’m just waiting for some wingnut to cry out that the judge should have recused himself from the case.  They’ll claim his judgment was compromised in presiding over a case involving other judges.

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Republican Morons and Islamophobia

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From Glenn Church over at Foolocracy comes this bit of nuttiness.

This November, Oklahoma voter will have a chance to decide on one of the pressing matters of the time – should Oklahoma ban sharia law?

Of all places in the United States, Oklahoma is one of the last that someone would expect sharia law. That is why the sponsor of the bill, Rex Duncan said, “I would describe this as a pre-emptive strike. We don’t want to let it get a toe-hold.”

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…people like Duncan are playing to the lowest fears of people who think that radical Muslims and international socialists are going to take over the American judicial system.

Race-baiting, fear-mongering Republicans are getting more insane and desperate by the day.  These people have really lost it.

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