I still would disagree that access to low cost Health Care Coverage is a right. And certainly not based on the premise of the rights of “Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness”. Many people have lived and do live a happy, healthy and productive life without Health Care Coverage.

And the concept of “Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness” was certainly espoused well before “Health Care Coverage” existed.

With that said, I think one could probably make a reasonable argument for some level of access to basic “Health Care” as a right, but this would not be it….in my opinion.

Anyway, everyone makes a lot of assumptions based on ignorance. I agree our Health Care System has issues that need to be addressed. I’m just not convinced what they are doing is the right thing to do. And I’m not convinced it is a reasonable OR intelligent approach to be running around, passing something…ANYTHING just so they can pronounce through swelled chests that they did…..something.

As for healthcare being a right. Well, let’s just say I read that into Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness. You ain’t pursing anything without life are you.

When Germans, are going to their govt. and saying they should be paying more in taxes http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article6949251.ece And there it is before you bother me asking for more verification of my “facts” it’s been all over the news. And I know a lot of Germans, French, Brits & Canadians and everyone that has lived in this country for more than 5 years says anyone who says their health care systems are not fine. Perfect no, nothing is but compared to what we don’t have, great.

Yes it is a right. Unless you just can’t understand how much tax money goes into a what essentially is public health care. The Emergency Dept. of hospitals everywhere. The poor go there, then they don’t pay. Who does? Tax payers and those who can afford the ever skyrocketing premiums.

I’m well covered. I could sit back and say screw everyone but I want every poor person – regardless of how they came to be poor because I don’t judge & begrudge – to have good health & food on their table. Because I do and I am far from even being in the middle class anymore.

I’m sorry for you if you don’t care that much about your fellow humans. There will come a time when you will regret that. And that’s coming from the most non-religious person you’ll ever talk to. You will regret that coldness. I promise you.

And I’m glad to see at least someone is coming around to what many of us felt we knew to begin with. Obama lacks the experience to be President.

And I think the third option would be the correct one. I don’t think ANY of these politicians care about much more than protecting their power and winning elections.

And I disagree that that providing low cost Health Care qualifies as a “right”.

And are you trying to tell me with anything resembling a straight face that you actually believe any of those corrupt, inept politicians go to bed with visions of disadvantaged Americans dancing in their heads??

If so, in recognition of your superior insight and intellect, I can give you a very lucrative deal on some beachfront property in Phoenix, Arizona!!

I reiterate, a man whose intelligence…….

I’ve come to believe that the president I worked too hard to elect, at some point between beginning his run & taking office decided that all that mattered was getting any kind of pseudo health care policy on the books, on record as having been done during his administration for his legacy no matter how toothless & worthless it might be. And for that & all the other issues major to not small groups of voters on which he ran but has either left untouched, ignored or out & out reversed himself, he will pay with a one term presidency.

I remember all the noise in the press just after he took office & supposedly called Lieberman in for a private “Talk” at the time everyone speculated that he would be putting the fear of the democratic party & God into him. Now I wonder if what that meeting was about was a conspiracy to enlist the perfect “TOOL” to help him turn his term into something that by the time of the beginning of the 2012 campaign cycle would make him centrist enough to be palatable to enough conservative voters that with no really great republican opposition would insure him a second term. Much like Clinton.

Ironically I believe now that had we elected Hillary Clinton she would not be doing this. She was a far greater player of the senate game and knows more about the process than our president will for a very long time if ever.
I believe she would have swept in and said essentially “The people want universal health care and that’s the only option I want on my desk for signature”.
Then she would have taken names and kicked the ass of anyone who stood in her way.

Of course I may be fantasizing about her. But right now, at the rate Obama’s going, soon I’ll believe I could trust John Edwards more.

I hope I’m not wrong in giving you the benefit of the doubt in your slightly confusing verbiage Tennessean. Because of course if you’re among that 30% of Americans who are against public health care….then I’d have to say you’re an ass for whom I have nothing but pity. But that’s only if I’m misreading you.

It should be telling to everyone but the most biased, zealous, liberal, bsfc whack job that these lying thieves don’t have the moral fiber to stand behind their own decisions.

If they think it’s such a great idea and will help the poor public so much, do it and face the consequences.

Not a one of these idiots are trying to pass Health Care Reform because they actually “care” about the poor uninsured. If you think they are, then you are hopelessly, if not criminally naive. I hope not even the most idealistically naive among you think Pelosi, Reid or Frank go to bed at night worrying and tossing and turning over the plight of the nation’s poor uninsured.

A man whose intelligence, if not his politics, I usually respect, lost a lot of credibility with me when he said he actually believed the Democrats were truly concerned about the plight of the uninsured. That degree of ignorance and naivete is astounding!!

It’s only about power and control for them. Nothing more. Nothing less. Denying that does you no justice.

How does “Medicare America” sound for a name…I like it.

Screw the insurance companies and screw Lieberman.