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The guy was an all around dick. But you knew that.
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Nixon was a 60′ish year old man, President in the early 70′s. Inter-racial relationships were widely frowned on, if not forbidden for much of his life. Only in the late 60′s and through the 70′s did inter-racial relationships begin to gain acceptance.
Without commenting as to right or wrong, it was simply the way it was and it was the norm. For better or worse, our society has progressed beyond that. But to condemn Nixon 40 years later for sharing thoughts and feelings the majority of our society held at that time seems to me somewhat disingenuous.
As for his other “concerns”, abortion on demand HAS fostered permissiveness and absolutely breaks the family. How can you say it does NOT break a family when you are willingly killing a potential member of that family?
But riddle me this? Why are we so enamored with destroying or damaging the “legacy” of people like Nixon? What is to be gained? Don’t you people have your hands full with hating Bush?
Nixon does not need any help in destroying his legacy. He did a fine job of doing that himself.
Let’s not confuse public figures with non-public ones. Bringing out the dirt on Uncle Charlie long after he meets his maker most probably serves no purpose. Public figures are in another league. Information on a past president adds to the public record. It’s called history. Concealing information from the public for purposes of preserving a legacy is tantamount to deceit. If we are to learn from history, then the historical record requires that it be a true reflection of the person or event.
Why does everything have to be partisan in nature? I have no problem with the numerous books which speak of the seedy side of Kennedy or Clinton. As arctic wrote, it is part of the historical record, as it should be. Getting antsy because Nixon was a republican is verging on paranoia.
I wasn’t excusing, defending, being partisan or none of that liberal hogwash you guys always want to trot out any time someone doesn’t fall lock step in line with your lunacy.
It’s called information. Education. I’m old enough to impart same to you. I lived through those times. If you are say, 40 or under, you don’t really have a realistic understanding of segregation. That’s just the way it was. It wasn’t malicious. It was accepted by whites and blacks alike. Doesn’t make it right. Doesn’t excuse it. But certainly not everyone who felt there were distinct differences in the races were bad people.
If you didn’t live in those times, it’s easy enough to look back and say it was this or that. If you are in your middle to late 50′s, early 60′s or more, that is just the way it was. People that believed the Earth was flat weren’t bad people. They were just proven wrong over time.
All I am saying is that for Nixon to have had those feeling is not remarkable. My guess would be close to 100% of the Politicians around his age at that time harbored similar feelings. We have grown out of it. We have “progressed”. In the 60′s and earlier, inter-racial relationships were strongly frowned upon. These days, it is a complete turn around. You would be frowned on and ridiculed if you stated a problem with it.
But to try to make a statement about any person’s character under similar circumstances and criteria is just stupid. A 60 year old man in the late 60′s and early 70′s spent his entire life in a segregated society. Doesn’t make it right. Doesn’t excuse it. But similarly, it doesn’t say anything about the true character and nature of that man.
LINCOLN: “While I was at the hotel to-day an elderly gentleman called upon me to know whether I was really in favor of producing a perfect equality between the negroes and white people. [Great laughter.]…I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people…”
Would you similarly impugn or question the character, integrity and intent of Abraham Lincoln? After all, he WAS a Republican.
Of course not. He was simply a man of his time. And from all indications, a pretty good and decent one.
Differentiate my dear. Differentiate. In my initial post…not guilty. In my response to liberal accusations and ignorance…yep! Partisan enough to point out the lunacy of the previous comments.
You people are so blinded and influenced by your bias, you expect the same from everyone.
Now take a deep breath…re-read my initial comment and tell me where I mentioned Nixon’s Political Party, Ideology, Politics or Persuasions?
You know what is funny I did not dislike Nixon until now. I did not know that about him. I actually felt sorry for him. I still don’t know, and have to research which president sold our asses to the chinese. As liberal as i am I have to say Clinton, but I may have to go as far back as Nixon and see what he started…
But I did feel proud of him the day he was on TV to discuss agreement to end the Vietnam war. I was siting in the Cafe Las Neridas in Condado Puerto Rico at the juncture with Avenida Magdalena. It was my birthday and I was coming out of my first Atta Yoga class and probably my last one ever. But it was one with a mind change and that was nice on my birthday.
Sitting eating dinner and Nixon comes on around 7:30 pm and discusses agreement to end the Vietnam war… It was January 23, 1973. I loved Nixon that day.
@maria…..If you are going to dislike Nixon now for those thoughts, you’re going to have to dislike a whole bunch of old people.
Nixon was simply a man of his time. And of that time, there were many people (I would guess probably in the 90 percent or better range) that felt the same. PARTICULARLY people his age.
I have to agree with you Lib… that’s just the way it was.
Nixon was quite the poker player. Put himself through school that way… he suffered from depression, too. Maybe he had some wires crossed with his mental illness, hence, the paranoia, who knows…but ending that god-awful war was a good thing.
I didn’t need another reason to dislike this despicable man.
Nixon was a 60′ish year old man, President in the early 70′s. Inter-racial relationships were widely frowned on, if not forbidden for much of his life. Only in the late 60′s and through the 70′s did inter-racial relationships begin to gain acceptance.
Without commenting as to right or wrong, it was simply the way it was and it was the norm. For better or worse, our society has progressed beyond that. But to condemn Nixon 40 years later for sharing thoughts and feelings the majority of our society held at that time seems to me somewhat disingenuous.
As for his other “concerns”, abortion on demand HAS fostered permissiveness and absolutely breaks the family. How can you say it does NOT break a family when you are willingly killing a potential member of that family?
But riddle me this? Why are we so enamored with destroying or damaging the “legacy” of people like Nixon? What is to be gained? Don’t you people have your hands full with hating Bush?
Nixon does not need any help in destroying his legacy. He did a fine job of doing that himself.
Let’s not confuse public figures with non-public ones. Bringing out the dirt on Uncle Charlie long after he meets his maker most probably serves no purpose. Public figures are in another league. Information on a past president adds to the public record. It’s called history. Concealing information from the public for purposes of preserving a legacy is tantamount to deceit. If we are to learn from history, then the historical record requires that it be a true reflection of the person or event.
Why does everything have to be partisan in nature? I have no problem with the numerous books which speak of the seedy side of Kennedy or Clinton. As arctic wrote, it is part of the historical record, as it should be. Getting antsy because Nixon was a republican is verging on paranoia.
What the f–k is wrong with you people?
I wasn’t excusing, defending, being partisan or none of that liberal hogwash you guys always want to trot out any time someone doesn’t fall lock step in line with your lunacy.
It’s called information. Education. I’m old enough to impart same to you. I lived through those times. If you are say, 40 or under, you don’t really have a realistic understanding of segregation. That’s just the way it was. It wasn’t malicious. It was accepted by whites and blacks alike. Doesn’t make it right. Doesn’t excuse it. But certainly not everyone who felt there were distinct differences in the races were bad people.
If you didn’t live in those times, it’s easy enough to look back and say it was this or that. If you are in your middle to late 50′s, early 60′s or more, that is just the way it was. People that believed the Earth was flat weren’t bad people. They were just proven wrong over time.
All I am saying is that for Nixon to have had those feeling is not remarkable. My guess would be close to 100% of the Politicians around his age at that time harbored similar feelings. We have grown out of it. We have “progressed”. In the 60′s and earlier, inter-racial relationships were strongly frowned upon. These days, it is a complete turn around. You would be frowned on and ridiculed if you stated a problem with it.
But to try to make a statement about any person’s character under similar circumstances and criteria is just stupid. A 60 year old man in the late 60′s and early 70′s spent his entire life in a segregated society. Doesn’t make it right. Doesn’t excuse it. But similarly, it doesn’t say anything about the true character and nature of that man.
Case in point: (I don’t have time to vet it. I am trusting it is accurate.)
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/335100
LINCOLN: “While I was at the hotel to-day an elderly gentleman called upon me to know whether I was really in favor of producing a perfect equality between the negroes and white people. [Great laughter.]…I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]—that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people…”
Would you similarly impugn or question the character, integrity and intent of Abraham Lincoln? After all, he WAS a Republican.
Of course not. He was simply a man of his time. And from all indications, a pretty good and decent one.
@liberal
“Don’t you people have your hands full with hating Bush?”
“I wasn’t excusing, defending, being partisan or none of that liberal hogwash..”
Don’t you just hate it when your own words come back to bite you on the ass?
@blanca……Uhhhhhh….No.
Differentiate my dear. Differentiate. In my initial post…not guilty. In my response to liberal accusations and ignorance…yep! Partisan enough to point out the lunacy of the previous comments.
You people are so blinded and influenced by your bias, you expect the same from everyone.
Now take a deep breath…re-read my initial comment and tell me where I mentioned Nixon’s Political Party, Ideology, Politics or Persuasions?
@Lib
You know what is funny I did not dislike Nixon until now. I did not know that about him. I actually felt sorry for him. I still don’t know, and have to research which president sold our asses to the chinese. As liberal as i am I have to say Clinton, but I may have to go as far back as Nixon and see what he started…
But I did feel proud of him the day he was on TV to discuss agreement to end the Vietnam war. I was siting in the Cafe Las Neridas in Condado Puerto Rico at the juncture with Avenida Magdalena. It was my birthday and I was coming out of my first Atta Yoga class and probably my last one ever. But it was one with a mind change and that was nice on my birthday.
Sitting eating dinner and Nixon comes on around 7:30 pm and discusses agreement to end the Vietnam war… It was January 23, 1973. I loved Nixon that day.
@maria…..If you are going to dislike Nixon now for those thoughts, you’re going to have to dislike a whole bunch of old people.
Nixon was simply a man of his time. And of that time, there were many people (I would guess probably in the 90 percent or better range) that felt the same. PARTICULARLY people his age.
@lib @maria
I have to agree with you Lib… that’s just the way it was.
Nixon was quite the poker player. Put himself through school that way… he suffered from depression, too. Maybe he had some wires crossed with his mental illness, hence, the paranoia, who knows…but ending that god-awful war was a good thing.