Comments on: Glenn Beck – 2009 Misinformer of the Year

By: janine

janine — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:09:35 +0000

@Tommy Pane

To say that liberals judge individual freedoms as dangerous is ludicrous.

By: Frances

Frances — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:50:34 +0000

@Tommy Pane, you do not appear to have gained any insight whatsoever into liberals. I agree with the 4 points you have quoted, but I don’t really understand how those points and the somewhat irrational (IMO) musings about liberals have come from the same person.

By: Tommy Pane

Tommy Pane — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:30:38 +0000

For several months, I’ve been following this blog to gain some insight into the thinking of liberals. This morning, I finally figured it out.

Liberals fear/resent individual freedom. At some point in their past, they judged individual freedom as dangerous. That belief is now a part of their unconscious thinking and injects itself, as a hidden equation, into their daily decision making process. It isn’t something that’s consciously known to the individual liberal. They don’t know why they think the way they do. They just feel “in their heart” that individuals with too much freedom will abuse others.

Each individual’s path to this hidden consensus is different, but the result is a group think that resonates with liberals on an unconscious level. It binds them together as a group.

The “cure” for liberalism then, starts with the recognition that this believe exists within you. Once you’ve tracked down this unconscious believe, it will lose its ability to influence your decisions without your consent. You can then start to replace it with conscience beliefs. Here are some of mine.

“Free will is our most basic right.”

“A free individual has a greater sense of responsibility than a constricted individual.”

“Individual freedom promotes personal responsibility.”

“Free individuals encourage freedom for others.”

There are many more, but hopefully these will help to speed some of you on your way to recovery.

By: Tommy Pane

Tommy Pane — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:28:26 +0000

Do you think that my sense of personal freedom means “every man for himself”?

By: mario piperni

mario piperni — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:01:56 +0000

Don’t be sad. In case you’re not sure of where the emphasis should be placed in my statement, it is not in “personal freedom”. It’s in “your sense of…”

Your sense of “personal freedom” is like a good idea on steroids. You apply it to everything and disregard anything in its path. While it might look good on paper, it is worthless in a real world with real people…both the virtuous and the flawed.

By: Tommy Pane

Tommy Pane — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:54:51 +0000

“I think your sense of “personal freedom” is misguided, cold and, honestly, quite revolting. But that’s me.”

That scares the hell out of me. It makes me sad.

By: mario piperni

mario piperni — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:39:37 +0000

I’m surprised at you Tommy. I’m not referring to opinion. I’m talking about facts. You confuse the two. Beck is a chronic liar. He makes up stuff. He distorts facts. He’s a fear-monger. And he’s delusional and a conspiracy theorist.

Republicans and obviously libertarians too, have lost all sense of truth and fact. If it sounds right, if it carries the message then all is fair. Say anything, no matter how ludicrous ’cause all that counts is the end result.

I think your sense of “personal freedom” is misguided, cold and, honestly, quite revolting. But that’s me.

By: Tommy Pane

Tommy Pane — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:53:10 +0000

Beck isn’t preaching to the choir. He’s trying to wake you up. Believe me, we all are.

What you take as lies coming from Beck, are perceived as such by you because of the lies you’ve already fallen for. Imagine how you’ll feel if it turns out that he was actually speaking truths.

I’ve learned much about liberals on this blog. It’s been eye opening. I believe that the justice liberals are working to impose on society will decrease personal freedom.

By: Frances

Frances — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:35:03 +0000

@Tommy Pane, Beck is speaking to whoever is stupid enough to buy gold at peak price. He’s speaking to whoever is paranoid about anyone who isn’t just like themselves. He speaks to maudlin old people. He speaks to people who don’t want to pay their taxes. He speaks to people who feel the need to stockpile weapons. He speaks to the fruitcakes that have replaced the bread in American’s Bread Basket.

Nobody promises paradise. Liberals seek social justice and personal freedom. For you to believe otherwise tells me you haven’t learned very much about “us”. Individual freedom does not have to mean “every man for himself”.

By: mario piperni

mario piperni — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:31:31 +0000

@Tommy – I think you have Beck all wrong. I think he’s a complete fraud…but let’s say I’m wrong and you’re right. Let’s say he has the interests of the country at heart. Answer me this please. If his cause is true, then why does he lie and propagate misinformation on each and every show? Why?

And if you deny that he does, then you’re just not listening.

Anyone who has a shred of decency and honesty would not, for example, make the statement that the president has a fundamental hatred for white people.