Comments on: Going Over The Cliff

By: Tennessean

Tennessean — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:17:24 +0000

defolts, no. I think the exchanges took place over the course of a couple of different posts. Proving you a liar isn’t worth the time it would take me to go over the previous posts looking for them.

I’ve got to get out of here to watch Beck’s live screening of the Christmas Sweater.

By: defolts

defolts — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:13:56 +0000

I’m not the one that is a fake party poster, now who is being dishonest, tell where I said there was no abuse oh lying one?
maybe if you took off the conservative blinders you would get the point, I simply stated the DAs out here do a pretty good job of catching fraud, you simply don’t how that works. maybe if you had some experience in the DAs office or had an accounting background like me you would get that but you don’t, I have seen you other posts where I know you are clueless on how the tax code works. you are clueless about this, you hear some reactionary stories and think that’s how it must be, you who live in the most violent region of the country, but you are sure we need tougher laws and where you live are the toughest but you still have the most violence, how can that be? so I don’t you expect you to get this.
you are simply being dishonest as most of your posts are,

By: Tennessean

Tennessean — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:49:53 +0000

defolts, you are simply being dishonest. I gave you much more than what you allege INCLUDING personal accounts from individuals I know to be gaming the system and I have neither the time, interest nor inclination to run in circles for you.

If you think there is little or no welfare abuse in this country that’s fine by me.

By: defolts

defolts — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:33:45 +0000

I simply asked what do you define as rampant, you could not answer, you simply provided me with a DA puff piece that talked what they prevented not what they actually lost to fraud, I will state this again in any large organization you will have fraud whether it is the local county welfare office or Home Depot, Staples, Kroger, Target… that’s how that works,it is generally considered to be around 5% according to the AICPA.
the difference with the government is that they have a whole army of DAs and detectives to go after the fraud and yes in this state it is minimal.
for you to cite that article from the DAs office shows me you really do not know how the system works, there are many people that show up thinking they can just try and apply for welfare in one county and not realizing that all 58 of California’s counties are linked, if you got welfare in Fresno country and try to apply in San Diego or Orange they will know.
now your DA being the honest souls that they are(LOL) will put that down as a prevention. that’s how that works, as far as people that actually get welfare here that should not, meaning they got a check from the county, no I don’t see that as being rampant, they already check the system to see if you get unemployment here and most businesses will have you in the state system within weeks so if you should happen to find a job and collect welfare here they will usually find out within the month, I have seen it happen, I have seen people that think they can get over and it usually does not end well.

By: Tennessean

Tennessean — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:13:50 +0000

defolts, I’m the type of person that furnished you with websites, numbers and sources to support my comments.

You are the type of person that responded with by sticking your tongue out at me.

By: defolts

defolts — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:06:15 +0000

I said define rampant. you cant do it. I asked you how many people actually commit fraud, not the ones that have been prevented because again it like saying because Wal-Mart has loss prevention control, how many people were prevented from stealing as opposed to how many actually took something,again you cannot do it. all you do is use vague words, Rampant, what exactly is rampant, you are the type of person that screams about ACORN but is quite when a private business rips off the government. really with you its who you think is getting welfare, you are the type that will lie and say the confederate flag is part of your heritage, dishonest, that is usually the province of conservatives.
the same people cried about Obamas lack of experience praise Sarah Palin.
and now the Fox News crowd is apologizing for Mike Huckabee, gee I wonder how they would react if it was Phil Bredesen?

By: Tennessean

Tennessean — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:28:27 +0000

Michael, as usual , a reasoned response.

By: Tennessean

Tennessean — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:26:19 +0000

defolts, for all intent and purposes you are simply dishonest. At worse, a liar.

And I’m still waiting for something from you other than “because I said so” to suggest welfare is not rampantly abused in the US and PARTICULARLY in California.

By: Tennessean

Tennessean — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:24:57 +0000

melody, misdiagnoses happen every day in all kinds of settings. Beyond that, it sounds to me like Health Care at least contributed to Jenny’s death, if not just outright killed her.

Either way, to say that she died because of a lack of health care is patently false.

By: Melody Brynne

Melody Brynne — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:12:42 +0000

LOL! It’s some kind of plot! But seriously, I agree that such processes as your wife fights are ridiculous! Let’s let doctors get to patient treatment and doing what is in their patient’s best health!